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unjapanologist) wrote2011-09-28 10:31 am
unjapanologist) wrote2011-09-28 10:31 am
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[fanstuff, random] On (not) moving to Diigo after #deliciousfail
Apparently the new delicious is not very useful in very many ways, and people are migrating. Many seem to be mentioning Pinboard and Diigo. I've never used Pinboard, but I have used Diigo intensively since 2007. It's a shiny service with a lot of very useful functionality, so much of it that I'm still not sure I can bear to leave it behind completely. (EDIT: Now I'm sure.)
It's not a good port in a storm for fannish bookmarks, though. I'm sure of that much. Of course all bookmarking services have their problems, and I don't mean to blow Diigo's out of proportion - again, the things you can do with bookmarks on that service are pretty amazing, and I'm still half in love with it myself.
But I don't trust Diigo anymore. They have a history of making functions quietly disappear without notifying users or explaining anything (like the full text group search feature which our department's research group happened to rely on, and the auto-post to many other bookmarking services feature that Diigo prided itself on at first and then retired almost completely). My bookmarks export broke down somewhere in 2009. All my requests for help on the support group, where the admins are usually very active, have gone ignored by Diigo staff in spite of other users reporting the same problem and helping me bump the threads.
When Diigo (which was completely free initially) introduced pricing plans a few years back, they had to reverse a lot of the announced changes after a huge outcry from non-subscription-paying users who were set to lose control over their bookmarks in various ways. I was one of the people who'd been repeating on the forums for years that I'd definitely pay for this or that extra feature because Diigo was worth it. When they did introduce subscriptions, though, they wanted to strip functionality from the free accounts instead of adding new things for paying users. It was a huge disappointment for me and many others. That whole brouhaha gave a massive blow to my confidence in the service's dedication to letting me keep control of my data.
There's a lot of spam on Diigo as well. I's obnoxious, and I fear that fans could be accidentally caught in the flagging crossfire. This may be a pointless concern, please note that I'm speculating here. But I've flagged a lot of people who looked like spammers out of the few groups I administer there, and those were pretty tiny groups. I'd hate to see what the admins of larger groups have to deal with. When deciding if someone's a spammer, use of a pseudonym always counted as a warning sign for me. Diigo doesn't demand that you use a real name, but most people there seem to and I've kind of come to expect it. Other people might be caught up in the real-name thing as well, go "Oh there's another spammer", and flag someone with a pseudonym without really thinking. I haven't found any information in the help section or support group about what happens if you get flagged as a spammer, save for one mention of a 'review process' not further specified.
Diigo is cool in very many ways, but it's not geared towards fans and my experiences with it haven't given me reason to believe that they would understand or take into account the concerns of fannish users. Personally, I'd caution against re-building any lost fannish infrastructure over there.
Now I'm going to check out Pinboard and see what that's like. Talk about the AO3 bookmarking feature being expanded or even a totally new fannish bookmarking service project is really music to my ears, though.
It's not a good port in a storm for fannish bookmarks, though. I'm sure of that much. Of course all bookmarking services have their problems, and I don't mean to blow Diigo's out of proportion - again, the things you can do with bookmarks on that service are pretty amazing, and I'm still half in love with it myself.
But I don't trust Diigo anymore. They have a history of making functions quietly disappear without notifying users or explaining anything (like the full text group search feature which our department's research group happened to rely on, and the auto-post to many other bookmarking services feature that Diigo prided itself on at first and then retired almost completely). My bookmarks export broke down somewhere in 2009. All my requests for help on the support group, where the admins are usually very active, have gone ignored by Diigo staff in spite of other users reporting the same problem and helping me bump the threads.
When Diigo (which was completely free initially) introduced pricing plans a few years back, they had to reverse a lot of the announced changes after a huge outcry from non-subscription-paying users who were set to lose control over their bookmarks in various ways. I was one of the people who'd been repeating on the forums for years that I'd definitely pay for this or that extra feature because Diigo was worth it. When they did introduce subscriptions, though, they wanted to strip functionality from the free accounts instead of adding new things for paying users. It was a huge disappointment for me and many others. That whole brouhaha gave a massive blow to my confidence in the service's dedication to letting me keep control of my data.
There's a lot of spam on Diigo as well. I's obnoxious, and I fear that fans could be accidentally caught in the flagging crossfire. This may be a pointless concern, please note that I'm speculating here. But I've flagged a lot of people who looked like spammers out of the few groups I administer there, and those were pretty tiny groups. I'd hate to see what the admins of larger groups have to deal with. When deciding if someone's a spammer, use of a pseudonym always counted as a warning sign for me. Diigo doesn't demand that you use a real name, but most people there seem to and I've kind of come to expect it. Other people might be caught up in the real-name thing as well, go "Oh there's another spammer", and flag someone with a pseudonym without really thinking. I haven't found any information in the help section or support group about what happens if you get flagged as a spammer, save for one mention of a 'review process' not further specified.
Diigo is cool in very many ways, but it's not geared towards fans and my experiences with it haven't given me reason to believe that they would understand or take into account the concerns of fannish users. Personally, I'd caution against re-building any lost fannish infrastructure over there.
Now I'm going to check out Pinboard and see what that's like. Talk about the AO3 bookmarking feature being expanded or even a totally new fannish bookmarking service project is really music to my ears, though.
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